[MD] desires

[MarshaV]

On Mar 13, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Dan Glover wrote:

> Hello everyone
> 
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:25 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>> Desires are just a way to ward off one's only certainty: death.   Desires project
>> existence into the future so one does not have to deal with one's fear of death.
> 
> Hi Marsha
> 
> I think the MOQ would say that there is no one desire... rather, there
> are different kinds of desire that all have different connotations.
> There are biological desires, social desires, and intellectual
> desires. From LILA:
> 
> "Celebrity is to social patterns as sex is to biological patterns. Now
> he was getting it. This celebrity is Dynamic Quality within a static
> social level of evolution. It looks and feels like pure Dynamic
> Quality for a while, but it isn't. Sexual desire is the Dynamic
> Quality that primitive biological patterns once used to organize
> themselves. Celebrity is the Dynamic Quality that primitive social
> patterns once used to organize themselves. That gives celebrity a new
> importance.
> 
> "None of this celebrity has any meaning in a subject-object universe.
> But in a value-structured universe celebrity comes roaring to the
> front of reality as a huge fundamental parameter. It becomes an
> organizing force of the whole social level of evolution. Without this
> celebrity force, advanced complex human societies might be impossible.
> Even simple ones."
> 
> Dan comments:
> 
> So, looking at intellectual desire from a value-centered universe, and
> taking Marsha's quote into account, we could say that projecting
> existence into the future is the Dynamic Quality that primitive
> intellectual patterns once used to organize themselves.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Dan


Sneaky are you Dan. ;-)    

I suppose if this were about using analogies, yours might be said to work; 
though I like my -prohibited- analogy better.  But under all theories I've 
got everything-connected-to-everything without need of any analogies, 
except for fun.  Intellectual fun I'd like to think; after all, this is a philosophy/
club where word games are played.  -  I was't thinking of any particular 
category of desire.

Except for the wish to become enlightened, the Buddha has said that 
desire is the source of all suffering.  I suppose I needed to work this out 
for myself, because desire has culturally been labeled good.  Maybe 
it is more about en-joying the moment.


Marsha




 
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