[MD] MOQ and Completeness Theories (Sorry, Godel.)

Andre Broersen andrebroersen at gmail.com
Thu Mar 24 02:27:46 PDT 2011


Andre:

'If preference and determinism are on the same continuum. this implies 
that freedom is also on a continuum from little (or none) at the 
inorganic static quality level (e.g. I have minimal or no control over 
the strength of gravity in the universe; it is largely determined), to 
some freedom at the biological (e.g. I must eat to survive but have 
control of the nutrition ingested and of meal times), considerable 
freedom at the social (e.g. choice of clothes, if any), nearly complete 
choice at the intellectual (e.g. what I believe to be true) and to 
complete freedom at the Dynamic 'Code of Art' level (where I place my 
first brush stroke, if any, on the canvas)... . As such it's apparent 
that this 'value' continuum (of freedom) stretches between largely 
determined sub-atomic particles to complete artistic freedom. This is 
important (metaphysically) as this continuum facilitates, in a largely 
deterministic physical world, a notion of moral responsibility and 
considerable intellectual freedom for an individual regarding aesthetic 
decisions.

And Anthony quotes Pirsig on the same page:
'The MOQ puts an end to this ancient freewill vs. determinism 
controversy by showing that both preference and probability are subsets 
of value. As the distinction between subject and object becomes 
relatively unimportant in the MOQ, so does the distinction between 
probability and preference. There is no basic difference between mind 
and matter with regard to free will, only a difference in degree of 
freedom'(Pirsig, 1997c) In Anthony's PhD, p 137.

And if Quality means freedom, and freedom is what one is after then free 
yourself from static patterns 'by putting them to sleep. That is, you 
master them with such proficiency that they become an unconscious part 
of your nature. You get so used to them you completely forget them and 
they are gone. There in the center of the most monotonous boredom of 
static ritualistic patterns the Dynamic freedom is found'(LILA, p 393)

'The physical order of the universe is also the moral order of the 
universe. Rta is both (i.e. the 'cosmic order' and 'moral order).This 
was exactly what the Metaphysics of Quality was claiming. It was not new 
a idea. It was the oldest idea known to man.(LILA, p,390)

'Rta,'Hiriyama has written, 'almost ceased to be used in Sanskrit; 
but...under the name of dharma the same idea occupies a very important 
place in the later Indian views of life also'...'Dharma, like rta, means 
'what holds together,'. It is the basis of all order. It equals 
righteousness. It is the ethical code. It is the stable condition which 
gives man perfect satisfaction'.

Dharma is duty. It is not external duty which is arbitrality imposed by 
others. It is not any artificial set of conventions which can be amended 
or repealed by legislation. Neither is it internal duty which is 
arbitrality decided by one's own conscience. Dharma is beyond all 
questions of what is internal and what is external. Dharma is Quality 
itself, the principle of 'rightness'which gives structure and purpose to 
the evolution of life and to the evolving understanding of the universe 
which life has created'.(LILA,p 392)





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