[MD] How to experience Dynamic Quality

[Dan Glover]

Look, John, you are the one who started by insulting me. I asked if
Ron was listening on account of his asking me to explain free will vs
determinism in terms of the MOQ. And this discussion didn't include
him. So I was merely being polite in asking if he was listening, or
reading if you will.

You on the other hand were just being a dick for the sake of being a
dick. Or so I inferred by your shouting at me.

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:37 AM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Dan,
>
>  how can I refute such eloquent and well-thought argumentation?

See what I mean? If you want to practice this kind of insulting
behavior, then direct it somewhere else besides towards me.

>
> Dan:
>>
>> No, but I am reading you being a dick.
>>
>> Johnprev:
>>
>>  Isn't this ineffable something that is heading away
>> > from mechanistic patterns just exactly what Ron and I have been saying
>> all
>> > along?  Mechanism is determinism.  Life heading away from determinism
>> means
>> > its going in the opposite direction.  What is the opposite direction?
>> >  Freedom!  Is freedom real?  It must be, it's what the whole MoQ is all
>> > about.
>>
>> Dan:
>>
>> No John. It is not. Don't feel like going into this bs again as that
>> is exactly what it is.
>>
>>
> It must be nice to know exactly what everything is, Dan.  I'm glad you've
> got the MoQ (and me) all figured out.  If you can argue for the
> non-fundamental-ness of freedom in logical terms, rather than simply making
> asshole-ish assertions, I might have some respect for you metaphysical
> opinions.  As it is, I think you oughta stick to telling stories.

I'm not asking for your respect for my metaphysical opinions but a
little respect wouldn't hurt, if you really want to have a discussion.
But we've been over all this before, haven't we.

>
> but then, I'd guess that advice applies to myself as well.
>
> nobody's pefrect.
>
> but...
>
> Perfection Exists!

Well, maybe when David gets back you two can stroke each others' egos
with that thought.

>
> keep tryin, dan.

I'm not trying, John. Just telling you like it is.

Dan