[MD] Keep on Truckin'

[MarshaV]

On May 11, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Marsha]
> Are a human having assimilating language against a feral human the only two choices.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Do you have a third choice?


Marsha:
There is a state of experience beyond language.  I think it is accessible to yogis and buddhas,
and to some who meditate.  One can quiet down to a purer knowing without the mind's 
constant narration.  


> [Marsha]
> Does your theory hinge on this type of exaggeration?
> 
> [Arlo]
> Give me some other options and I'll let you know. Seems to me that, within a MOQ, the path is biological (feral), social (languaged)... I don't see an alternative path. If you do, by all means, let me know. Can you name a single social pattern that is not mediated in some way by a symbolic "language"? I can't.

Have you constrained this concept to the social?  One an lift off that hot stove...     


> [Marsha]
> What ideas are you trying to present?
> 
> [Arlo]
> Don't you read my words?

Marsha:
I'm not as bright as you, but I cannot see where you are stating anything new.  
RMP has already said both DQ and sq are important for harmonious patterns.  
I still do not understand where "agency" comes into the picture.  I'm sensing an 
unstated 'autonomous little homunculus,' but I could be wrong.  


> [Marsha]
> There is a language aspect to patterns...  Duh...
> 
> [Arlo]
> ?? This makes no sense. What is a "language aspect to patterns"?

Static quality is about anything that can be conceptualized.  I would 
think there is an interdependence between concept and language.  
There is at the very least a name given to a pattern.   But what here is 
new?  And where is this "agency"?  

    


 
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