[MD] Keep on Duckin'

[MarshaV]

On May 13, 2011, at 1:09 AM, Dan Glover wrote:

> Hello everyone
> 
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:11 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> dmb says:
>> Well, I suppose it's futile to try to talk sense with a person with thinks static patterns of quality are both ever-changing AND a kind of prison. It's a cage made of clouds, apparently. It's like trying to discuss water with someone who thinks ice is hot and steamy. Even Sarah Palin would blush at this level of incoherence.
>> 
>> In the MOQ, static patterns are not a prison. They are the world as we know it, arranged in an evolutionary moral hierarchy. They are static patterns of VALUE, of QUALITY.
>> Marsha had said:I not only agree with Mark that language is a kind of prison, but I also think patterns are a kind of prison."To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by static patterns of quality it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's behavior is free." [LILA}
> 
> Dan:
> I don't think it's right to say patterns are a kind of prison, or
> language for that matter. Language and patterns are useful for
> rationally sharing our sense of experience. I think the above quote is
> being taken out of context.


Marsha:
I do agree that language and patterns are useful for all sorts of 
reasons.  I think I've said this many times.  I'm a conventional 
woman and find them very useful..  If 'prison' is too strong a word 
for you, perhaps 'cage' would be a better choice?  I meant 'prison' 
in the sense of 'constraint.'  But maybe you can find a word you like 
better. 
 
 
 
 
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