[MD] Bitterkeit und Besskeiten

[MarshaV]

p.s.  Of course how it relates to the MoQ?  The MoQ is so much 
a part of my thinking that it's like MoQ glasses.  But then my 
vision has improved remarkably.  Three parts MoQ and one 
part Buddhism --- with meditation on the side: a wonderful worldview.   






On May 14, 2011, at 9:59 AM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Honestly, the 90 minute review made him seem like a nutcase.  He's 
> called a genius so I am trying to stay open.  Yes, he did change his 
> philosophy.  Paul Strathern seem to think Wittgenstein was the only 
> philosopher EVER to admit his philosophy (the first) was wrong.  That's 
> worth pondering.  Strathern also said Wittgenstein's theory was to be 
> "The Final Solution" for philosophy, the end of it, over, kaput...    
> 
> Geez, Wagner was suppose to be an egotistical bastard, but a least 
> he left us with some of the greatest musical drama.  I am curious to 
> see what Wittgenstein presented to humanity.  Did you know he had 
> three brothers who committed suicide???   -  But maybe I will lose 
> interest after a few chapters.  Or maybe some of his ideas will be 
> appealing and other not so much.  I am curious.  
> 
> 
> Marsha  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 14, 2011, at 9:40 AM, 118 wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha,
>> I am trying to remember which interpretations I got from the library
>> last year.  I did read that he changed his approach later on and
>> treated language more like painting (my analogy).  That is, he broke
>> it up into specific works of art.
>> 
>> I am curious what you find that relates to MoQ.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Friday, May 13, 2011, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> H Mark,
>>> 
>>> I've ordered 'Ludwig Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius' by
>>> Ray Monk.
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2011, at 5:35 PM, 118 wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What about Wiki?  That seems to be the Bible of many.
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, May 13, 2011, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ron,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've only read a limited amount on what he might have meant, accompanied
>>>>> by some very interesting quotes.  He was describe as a skeptic, and one
>>>>> interested in the limitations of language.  His name has been mentioned with
>>>>> that of Sextus Empiricus.  I am looking for a book, a good introduction, to
>>>>> his philosophical ideas.  If someone could suggest one for a wiggly to read,
>>>>> I would be appreciative.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 13, 2011, at 8:47 AM, X Acto wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, language is a means to an end, .....understanding.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> a useful tool.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> An explanation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I dont think he meant all language shoud be thrown away
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>>>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>>>> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 8:23:28 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] Bitterkeit und Besskeiten
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "My propositions are elucidatory in this way: he who understands me finally
>>>>>> recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through them, on them,
>>>>>> over them. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, after he has climbed up
>>>>>> on it.)"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    (Wittgenstein, Ludwig, 'Tractatus Logico-Philosphophicus', 6.54)
>>>>>> 
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