[MD] Keep on duckin'

[MarshaV]

dmb,

They make sense to me.    


Marsha 


On May 14, 2011, at 11:31 AM, david buchanan wrote:

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> Marsha said to dmb:
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>> Here's my definition of Dynamic Quality and static quality.
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>> For me, Dynamic Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable.  
>> Static patterns of value are processes: impermanent, interdependent, 
>> ever-changing.  No subjects.  No objects.  Not things-in-themselves.  
>> Overlapping, interconnected, ever-changing processes that pragmatically 
>> tend to persist and change in a stable, predictable pattern.   
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>> Don't you like my defintions?
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> dmb says:
> The question is not whether or not I like your definitions. Do they make sense? That's the question. 
> As I pointed out already, the problem is not that you have a different point of view. The problem is that your definitions defy logic, dictionaries and Pirsig's text. How could your definitions be any worse? I honestly can't imagine how they could be any more confused. 
> What amazes me is that you shamelessly persist in saying really stupid things like this. In the last sentence, for example, you describe static patterns as stable AND ever-changing. That's like saying stable structures are fluid, which is exactly what they are not. That's not my definition. That's just what the words mean. That's what they meant before you and I were born. That's how Pirsig and other english speakers use the term. But apparently you're just not capable of understanding or meeting the most basic requirements of communication. 
> There are only two terms here: static and dynamic. This is the first and most basic distinction of the MOQ and even at this simple starting point you're already way off. These terms are opposites and yet you can't even see the difference between them. "For me, my definition of 'up' is not other than 'down' and for me, 'dry' things are wet and watery. Of course, you wouldn't understand that because I'm here as a man, speaking for all men.
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