[MD] Keep on duckin'

[MarshaV]

p.s.  Look up the word 'quality'  or 'value' in a dictionary and you will not find a reference to 'static' or 'Dynamic'.   




On May 14, 2011, at 12:59 PM, MarshaV wrote:

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> On May 14, 2011, at 12:32 PM, david buchanan wrote:
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>> ...The problem is that your definitions defy logic, dictionaries and Pirsig's text. How could your definitions be any worse? I honestly can't imagine how they could be any more confused. ...In the last sentence, for example, you describe static patterns as stable AND ever-changing. That's like saying stable structures are fluid, which is exactly what they are not. That's not my definition. That's just what the words mean. That's what they meant before you and I were born. That's how Pirsig and other english speakers use the term. But apparently you're just not capable of understanding or meeting the most basic requirements of communication. 
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>> Marsha replied to dmb:
>> They make sense to me. 
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>> Again, the criticism is that your definitions defy logic, dictionaries and Pirsig's text.
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> Marsha:
> Your opinion...   I am trying to enlarge and improve my understanding of the MoQ.     
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>> dmb:
>> You have never successfully responded to the substance of that complaint.
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> It's opinion.  
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>> dmb:
>> You only ever retreat into solipsism, mysticism, feminism or otherwise think up some bullshit reason to avoid responsibility for your own thoughts and actions. 
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> More ad hominemery.
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>> dmb:
>> And your standard of intelligibility is making sense to yourself? Wow.
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> Marsha:
> I sure wouldn't use you as a standard.  
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>> You really don't see how idiotic that is?
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> Marsha:
> Attack, attack, attack.  
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>> dmb:
>> Making up your own definitions of english words is like printing your own money. You can do it but you'll soon discover how worthless it is when you try to spend it anywhere.
>> Or try going into a store with a five-dollar bill and explain to the clerk that you define "five" to mean "a hundred". See, money only works as a medium of exchange when we co-operate as to its meaning and value and you are hack counterfeiter. Your definitions are as valid as a wooden nickel and only a fool would take your bogus coins. 
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> Marsha:
> Hyperbole and finger-wagging, but no substance.
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>> dmb:
>> As anyone with a dictionary can see, "static" is a term contrasted with and opposed to the term "dynamic" and vice versa. As anyone with a copy of Lila can see, "static" and "dynamic" are similarly contrasted and opposed within the MOQ. Your apparently inability to grasp such basic concepts is actually pretty bizarre. Do you really not understand that language is a collective property? Do you really not see how communication is utterly destroyed by altering whatever meanings and definitions you like?
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> Hyperbole and nonsense...  
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>> dmb:
>> This pattern of behavior goes way beyond dumb. It's crazy. 
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> Marsha:
> More ad hominemery.  (Like the word?  It's easy to write, and near impossible to pronounce.)  
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>> static |ˈstatik|adjective1 lacking in movement, action, or change, esp. in a way viewed as undesirable or uninteresting : demand has grown in what was a fairly static market | the whole ballet appeared too static.• Computing (of a process or variable) not able to be changed during a set period, for example, while a program is running.2 Physics concerned with bodies at rest or forces in equilibrium. Often contrasted with dynamic .
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>> dynamic |dīˈnamik|adjective1 (of a process or system) characterized by constant change, activity, or progress : a dynamic economy.• (of a person) positive in attitude and full of energy and new ideas : she's dynamic and determined.• (of a thing) stimulating development or progress : the dynamic forces of nature.• Physics of or relating to forces producing motion. Often contrasted with static .• Linguistics (of a verb) expressing an action, activity, event, or process. Contrasted with stative . 	
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> Marsha:
> Didn't you learn your lesson with demanding the standard seven-word dictionary definition for 'reify'?   Then suddenly on February 19th, you finally acknowledge a broader meaning.   
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> Like to remind you:  the motorcycle that is to be worked on is YOURSELF.    Do you have you work done?   
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