[MD] Protagoras: everything is relative...
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Thu Nov 3 15:07:53 PDT 2011
Hi Mark,
Marsha:
Viva la difference. As I explained, my view of the MoQ: Reality = Quality(Dynamic(unpatterned experience)/static(patterned experience)).
Marsha
On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:34 PM, 118 wrote:
> Hi Marsha,
> I apologize if I come off as complaining. In some circles this is called healthy debate with rhetoric.
>
> The reason I may question you equation of Quality and reality, is because that it may be misleading. Your quote from Pirsig may point that out to you:
>> "Quality is the primary reality of the world."
>
> This statement alone implies that quality and reality are two different concepts. Quality is being defined through the concept of primary reality. This is different from Quality being Reality.
>
> It is easy to be misled by words, one must look beyond them to see Quality.
>
> We were off the grid for a while due to the wonderful Desert Winds that blow through here with force at this time of the year. It seems that the lines are back up now.
>
> Mark
>
> On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:39 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
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>> FIRST, sorry for he long delay. I was without power and land-line, cell phone service & DSL service because of the storm. All returned this afternoon making me one of the lucky few. New Fairfield was 100% off the grid and still is 90% off the grid.
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>> Mark:
>> I am only trying to understand your view on Quality, so I do not think it is being petty. I thought I was doing a good job. It is words like unpatterned that I do not understand. Such a word has no meaning to me in the same way that undefined has no meaning, and I keep asking Joe about it. So it is not my intent to find fault, and I am disappointed that you would think so.
>>
>> Marsha:
>> I explained my view of the MoQ: Reality = Quality(Dynamic(unpatterned experience)/static(patterned experience)).
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>> Mark:
>> That you think that Quality means the same thing as the more commonly used word Reality is a bold statement since it means that all the common attributes given to Reality can be given to Quality.
>>
>> Marsha:
>> As RMP states: "Quality is the primary reality of the world."
>>
>> Mark:
>> I was simply exploring that. Some day you may stop being so defensive and we can have a real conversation, or not.
>>
>> Marsha:
>> Yet, you, on your part, ignore questions that I put to you.
>>
>> And you complained of my use of the word "reality" in a discussion about metaphysics, a subject which asks basic questions about reality. And you yourself not too long ago wrote "The dimensionality of space cannot be discarded in metaphysics, since it creates our reality." I think your complaining, and you are beginning to sound like one of the complaining sock puppets, is hypocritical.
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>> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write?
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