[MD] The Hero's journey

[X Acto]

marsha,
 
only a self keeps constantly trying to assert it's views
 
who's kidding who
 
..

From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey


Ron,

I'm not complaining.  I enjoy talking metaphysics and think the MoQ presents a Better way to interpret experience.  But if I were thrown off the list, I'd just go back to my books.  I have nothing to lose.  I'm not Marsha-Marsha-Marsha, the wannabe, looking for the label of scholar, academic or intellectual.  So whether what I present is labeled a 'blond joke', 'ignorant', or if I am called an asshole or Lucy, or you insinuate that I am self-centered, it's seen as projection and tells me something about what your made of.  Marsha isn't anybody.  

"'I mean, I used to play I was this kind of person and that kind of person but I got so tired of playing all those games. It's such work and it doesn't do any good. There's just all these pictures of who I am and they don't hold together. They're all different people I'm supposed to be but none of them are me. I'm not anybody. I'm not here. Like you now. I can see you've got a lot of bad impressions about me in your mind. And you think that what's in your mind is here talking to you but nobody's here. You know what I mean? Nobody's home. That's Lila. Nobody's home."


Marsha





On Nov 7, 2011, at 9:47 PM, X Acto wrote:

> "The MOQ is a continuation of the mainstream of twentieth century American philosophy, It is a form of pragmatism, of instrumentalism, which says the test of the true is the good. It adds that this good is not a social code or some intellectualized Hegelian Absolute. It is direct everyday experience." (Lila 366)
> 
> "The Metaphysics of Quality is not intended to be within any philosophic tradition, although obviously it was not written in a vacuum. ... The Metaphysics of Quality's central idea that the world is nothing but value is not part of any philosophic tradition that I know of. I  have proposed it because it seems to me that when you look into it carefully it makes more sense than all the other things the world is supposed to be composed of. One particular strength lies in its applicability to quantum physics, where substance has been dismissed but nothing except arcane mathematical formulae has really replaced it."  (RMP, 'A Brief Summary of the MOQ')
>                        
> Ron:
> I think it's altogether silly to ignore words like "intended" and "That I know of" and force such an
> absolute denial that these statements confirm MoQ is CLASSIFIED as a FORM of Pragmatism,
> Pragmatism being a uniquely american tradition of philosophy.
>  
> That it is CLASSIFIED as a form of Pragmatism has absolutely no bearing whatsoever as far as Pirsigs
> INTENTON of it being so or not.
>  
>  
> But then again this isnt about making any sort of sense...it's about teaching those boys a lesson, it's about
> being a chick in the boys club...fighting the man...all about Marsha..you know..yadda yadda
>  
> aaaalllwayyys about marsha...
>  
> marsha, marsha, marsha
>  
> ..



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