[MD] Nonlocality

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I have you to thank for your original opinion in this thread.

Thanks for sharing your views.

Mark

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> Oh great exalted, judgmental opinionator,
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> Thanks for sharing.
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> On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:30 PM, 118 wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
>> I would put it another way.  Non-locality is a statistical concept of
>> matter, and while Quality could be said to have properties of such
>> statistics, it is not non-local.  In my opinion, it is about as local
>> as something can get, that is, one's personal relationship to the
>> cosmos.  By abstracting Quality, one confines it.  To experience
>> Quality, one embodies it.  Instead of putting Quality out there, put
>> it in here.
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>> I do not quite understand your application of nonlocality to sunshine
>> and storm, but it sounds interesting.  Like something I would say...
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>> Patterns present themselves due to Quality.  Patterns imply the mixing
>> of independent sources, at least in a dualistic (or pluralistic
>> world).  A monistic world is determinism and I have no intuitive use
>> for that.  Dependent arising cannot exist alone, it is dependent on
>> two things plus the nature of their interaction.  It has a source, and
>> that is Quality.  Quality is independent; it is the unmoved mover, or
>> the first cause, or the ground of being, or the essence of a flame.
>> From the one come the two; from the two come the three; from the three
>> come all things (just an analogy, of course).  The three are
>> independent so as to create patterns that depend on them, otherwise
>> patterns would not exist.  The Yin, the Yang, and the power of
>> interaction.  Dynamic Quality, static Quality, and Interactive
>> Quality.    This seems to me to be the way that reason can approach
>> it.  If we say that Quality interacts with itself (which is another
>> approach), the notion of patterns cannot exist.  All we can do is
>> interpret the signs, like making constellations out of the stars.
>> Outside of reason, It is This not That.  Or, as Peter Gabriel wrote in
>> "It" (The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Genesis 1974)
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>> When it's cold, it comes slow.
>> it is warm, just watch it grow.
>> -all around me.
>> it is here. it is now.
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>> Just a little bit of it can bring you up or down.
>> Like the supper it is cooking in your hometown.
>> it is chicken, it is eggs,
>> it is in between your legs.
>> it is walking on the moon,
>> leaving your cocoon.
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>> it is the jigsa, it is purple haze.
>> it never stays in one place, but it's not a passing phase,
>> it is in the single's bar, in the distance of the face,
>> it is in between the cages, it is always in a space
>> it is here. it is now.
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>> Any rock can be made to roll,
>> If you've enough of it to pay the toll.
>> it has no home in words or goal,
>> Not even in your favourite hole.
>> it is the hope for the dope.
>> When you ride the horse without a hoof.
>> it is shaken, not stirred;
>> Cocktails on the roof.
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>> When you eat right through it you see everything alive,
>> it is inside spirit, with enough grit to survive
>> If you think it's pretentious, you've been taken for a ride.
>> Look across the mirror, before you chose decide
>> it is here. it is now
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>> Thanks,
>> Mark
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>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:31 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Quality may be compared to quantum physics's nonlocality.  Static quality exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns.  Patterns have no independent existence;
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>>>        the nonlocality between sunshine and storm
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