[MD] Taking off the glasses?

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Tue Nov 22 04:10:33 PST 2011


On Nov 22, 2011, at 4:58 AM, Carl Thames wrote:

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> Marsha:
>> "While I am thinking about it there is a very good book on Buddhism recently out called 'Buddhism, Plain and Simple', by Steve Hagen and published by Tuttle Publishing. I recommend you get it because it shows the similarities, between the MOQ and Zen Buddhism more clearly than any other I have seen."
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>>   (Pirsig to McWatt, May 6th 1998.)
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>> "We can't comprehend Reality with our intellects.  We can't pull it into a static view of some thing.  All our explanations are necessarily provisional.  They're just rigid frames of what is actually motion and fluidity.  In other words, if you think of how Reality is, you can be sure that's how it isn't.  Reality simply cannot be put into conceptual form --- not even through analogy, for there's nothing like it.  Reality simply doesn't fit into concepts at all.
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>> (Hagen, Steve, ‘Buddhism: Plain and Simple’, p.71)
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> Isn't this what Pirsig worked out when he realized that "truth," like "beauty," were not fixed, static concepts but rather events?  That's what I bought away from ZMM so many years ago, and I haven't encountered anything since that would falsify the concepts. 


Falsify the concepts?  Good one.  Neti-neti.   -   I believe RMP was pointing, not suggesting a Truth.   But then, he was suggesting reality is not this, not that.  Mu.   


 
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