[MD] The Hero's journey

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi Matt,

Off the top of his head Pirsig acknowledges 4 levels in evolution Inorganic,
Organic, Social, Intellectual.

A couple of questions: What is evolution?  For myself I answer an order in
existence.  What about 'emotions'?  Not everyone feels the same.  There is a
category called heroes.  I acknowledge that they act from higher emotional
and higher intellectual Dq levels.  Hardly without moving I find 7 levels in
evolution some indefinable like emotions, higher emotions, higher intellect,
heroes.  DQ an indefinable reality in emotions has further offspring.


On 11/21/11 2:04 PM, "Matt Kundert" <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> I'm not terribly sure what the phrase "a more complex foundation for
> a reality in evolution" means, but about the complexity of plastic dog
> dishes relative to New York City, let me put my thought this way:
> New York was around, historically speaking, before plastic dog dishes.
> Meaning, plastic dog dishes are artifacts of a social complexity that
> exceeds (because includes) the social complexity needed for a city.
> 
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:11:31 -0800
>> From: jhmau at comcast.net
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey
>> 
>> Hi Matt,
>> 
>> The evidence for multiple levels in evolution found in New York city
>> describe a more complex foundation for a reality in evolution beyond dog
>> dishes.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> On 11/19/11 4:05 PM, "Matt Kundert" <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure why increased complexity denotes more reality/evidence.
>>> (Besides, a whole lot of evolution goes into a dog dish: see much
>>> plastic lying around the floors of forests?)
>>> 
>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:54:54 -0800
>>>> From: jhmau at comcast.net
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>> 
>>>> I do not know what is your take on evolution?  Is evolution a metaphysical
>>>> reality?  If so then there is more evidence for evolution from New York
>>>> than
>>>> from dog dishes.  That is if a logical description of evolution is more
>>>> complicated than the appearance of dog dishes!
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/16/11 1:46 PM, "Matt Kundert" <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Matt:
>>>>> I hope I've articulated why I still have no idea why you think there's
>>>>> more evidence for New York than dog dishes.
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