[MD] Taking off the glasses?

[MarshaV]

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>>> The problem here is that the illusion, or maya, is NOT empty of meaning, at least for us.  It IS an illusion, but it's all we have.  Do you see the problem here?  It's the only "reality" available to us.  Granted, if we wanted to do the work, use the psychotropics or whatever, we would have access to a different reality, but the one we live in and with every day is conscensual, isn't it?  We get together with those around us and say, "Yup, this is real."  Does knowing it's an illusion change anything?
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>> Hello Carl,
> Marsha:
>> I do not understand the "different reality".  But I think it is important to find out for oneself.
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> Carl:
> Why would that be important?  I'm not trying to be a nit here, just wondering.  I have been a shamanic practioner for almost 20 years now, and have ocassionally accessed what Jung has called the "collective consciousness" personally.  I did so for a specific reason, with a pretty solid concept of what to do when I got there.  For the average person, without this background, it would provide nothing more than a mind-altering experience.  Do you understand what I'm asking here?  Why would it be important for everyone to access that reality?  To my mind, that would be like everyone suddenly being able to completely understand Einstein's Theory of Relativity.  Okay, they know what it is, and how it works, but how does that change their perception of their personal reality? 

Carl,

I think I will pass on conventionally speculating on another's answer.


Marsha