[MD] Taking off the glasses?

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Tue Oct 18 03:47:19 PDT 2011



Hi Steve,

I think that dmb is saying something like 'My reasoning is the same as those guys.'  While he can attack other's arguments, he cannot explain and justify his own reasoning.  Sad for someone who thinks he'd like to be on an academic track.  


Marsha 




On Oct 17, 2011, at 3:52 PM, david buchanan wrote:

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> Steve said:
> ... I have given my reasoning for why I think that notion is incompatible with other aspects of Pirsig's philosophy. Again, I am asking for YOUR reasoning or your understanding of Pirsig's reasoning for how it could be possible to be out of touch with DQ. Here is my reasoning again in case you want to engage with it: (1) DQ is primary experience, the leading edge of experience (2) To say that I am not in touch with DQ then is to say that my experience does not have a leading edge. (3) How can that be when I am a set of static patterns left in the wake of that leading edge of experience? If I begin where DQ ends, how can I be out of touch with it?
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> dmb says:
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> Do you have any idea what I'm saying? To put it politely, I'm skeptical.
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