[MD] Taking off the glasses?

[Steven Peterson]

Hi Mark,


Mark:
> I think that Pisig's point of the glasses off sayings are that such speech makes no sense to the glasses on.  If I say "the other side of air" it is the same thing as saying nothing at all to those with the glasses on.  So am I saying anything at all?  I think I am.  It is saying without saying.  Same as the Zen saying "thinking without thinking".  It is an expression of DQ.  One can say nothing, yet say a lot.  No rigid sq is formed, it is DQ.  Read some of the mystics, and you will see.

Steve:
I don't know what is meant by "the other side of air," so I must still
have glasses on. Do you have your glasses off, Mark? If so, how did
you achieve it? What does it mean to you to have your glasses off? Are
there benefits to taking off glasses beyond finding "the other side of
air" to be a sensical notion?

Best,
Steve