[MD] The Hero's journey

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Hi Marsha,
I know what I grasp.  I am trying to explain it with words.  Obviously I have not been successful if you ask that question.  Stay tuned and perhaps you will understand.  That is, if you want to.

Mark

On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:50 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello Mark,  
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:
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>> 
>> Matt said:
>> I'm wondering what it even means for science to reject, say, 
>> biological values.
>> 
>> Marsha said:
>> Science might reject the physical responses accompanying jealousy, 
>> fear or hate from biasing the interpretation or presentation of data.
>> 
>> Matt also said:
>> When did biology reject sex?
>> 
>> Marsha also said:
>> Biology includes the study of sex.
>> 
>> Matt:
>> The first response construes Pirsig in a useful way, but the second 
>> walks into why the formulation is odd: science _studies_ stuff, but to 
>> say it _includes_ it without the "study of" bit is to think that biology 
>> includes having scientists having a lot of sex with each other ("in the 
>> name of science," they keep telling their spouses).  The answer to 
>> the rhetorical question doesn't rebut the premise in the right way in 
>> order to clarify the issue.  Science rejects jealousy and fear as 
>> appropriate responses in the "study of" bit, but in the same way the 
>> answer to the second question could've been "biology includes the 
>> study of fear."  Biology doesn't reject sex, and it doesn't reject fear, 
>> in toto: rather it rejects fear and sex in terms of their relevance to 
>> the "study of" stuff.  Which is why I find the Pirsig formulation a 
>> little lop-sided.
> 
> Marsha:
> Since there is no absolute by which to reckon whether RMP's 
> formulation is a little lop-sided or your head is a little lop-sided, 
> I'd have wonder what are you trying to grasp?  Do you know?  
> 
> 
> Marsha 
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