[MD] Freedom within structure.

[david buchanan]

dmb said:
Yes, I definitely think that Pirsig's comments about "one's behavior" are comments about the actions of the self. But the MOQ does not construe the our moral agency as essentially rational nor does it construe the self as autonomous or proprietary.


Steve replied:
...It [free will] is not merely the ability to choose or even merely the ability to rationally deliberate but something that is that and still more.  ...If Pirsig's philosophy is about anything it is about individuals making quality decisions.  What I deny is that agency is equivalent to free will. .. Free will is agency plus something else. It is the something else (depending on what someone says it is) that I deny.


dmb says:

Plus something else? Why does moral agency have to be something extra behind moral agency? You are denying a nonsense assertion that nobody made. So who are you talking to? What relevance could this ridiculous fiction have if nobody is asserting it?

I've asked you this many, many times. Like already said repeatedly, such questions are recursive, redundant nonsense. 

Why in the world do you suppose that the ability to choose is not free will? Where did you ever get the idea that there has to be something extra behind free will in order for it to be free will? Come on, it's asinine.