[MD] Taking Words Seriously

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Thu Sep 1 11:38:31 PDT 2011



Greetings Dmb,  


On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:14 PM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> "...and most of the troubles are caused by what old time radio men called a 'short between the earphones,' failures to use the head properly. A motorcycle functions entirely in accordance with the laws of reason, and a study of the art of motorcycle maintenance is really a miniature study of the art of rationality itself. ...to get into that it's vital to stay with down-to-earth examples of rationality, so as not to get lost in generalities no one else can understand. Talk about rationality can get very confusing unless the things with which rationality deals are also included.  ...  In a motorcycle this precision isn't maintained for any romantic or perfectionist reasons. It's simply that the enormous forces of heat and explosive pressure inside the engine can only be controlled through the kind of precision these instruments give." (ZAMM, 98-9)
> 
> "Definitions are the FOUNDATION of reason. You can't reason without them."  (Emphasis is Pirsig's. ZAMM, 214.)

And so you wrote:

>> dmb says:
>> Another good point. Pirsig's rejection of the Cartesian self certainly doesn't mean the MOQ rejects any conception of the self.  The MOQ's self includes the body as well as the mind. 


And so I ask:
Is this your definition/understanding of self within the MoQ?   



Marsha  







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