[MD] Indeterminism

Steven Peterson peterson.steve at gmail.com
Fri Sep 23 05:17:13 PDT 2011


Hi Ian,

Ian:
> Saying our free-will is "part random" is not the same as saying it's "by its
> very nature unpredictable" is it !

Steve:
Perhaps. Would you agree if I had added the term "somewhat" before
"unpredictable"? The point is that adding  more unpredictability
doesn't give us more freedom. Quite the opposite.

Ian:
> It's just honest to recognise that our will is subject to chance too

Steve:
The issue isn't whether or not it is true or "honest." What I am
objecting to is the notion that unpredictability is the thing that is
needed for freedom.

Ian:
 - and
> it's beneficial two ways - we can take account of the unpredictability in
> our willed choices and actions, through guesses, percentages, margins for
> error, plan-B fallbacks, etc  - AND - when we get it wrong we learn
> something from what we didn't expect, and evolve our will.

Steve:
All this is about trying to take more control (more power, more
freedom) by becoming _better_ at planning and making predictions.

Best,
Steve



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