[MD] Indeterminism
david buchanan
dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 28 12:57:51 PDT 2011
Mark quoted Marsha:
And here are the questions that dmb evaded: So, dmb, is your argument that William James says free-will is real, therefore it is Real? Or is it that William James and a dozen philosophers and scientists say free-will (two-stage model) is real, therefore it i s Real? What is your argument? Have you presented any argument at all? No? Are you folding?
dmb says:
Evaded the question? Only if "evasion" means a refusal to answer the same question over and over again. Apparently, if a person doesn't constantly repeat himself, he is being "evasive". But seriously, I already answered this objection, despite its conspicuously snarky and insincere nature. On the 21st, I said....
Marsha said to dmb:
> So, dmb, is your argument that William James says free-will is real, therefore it is Real? Or is it that William James and a dozen philosophers and scientists say free-will (two-stage model) is real, therefore it i s Real? What is your argument? Have you presented any argument at all? No? Are you folding?
dmb replied:
My claim is that Steve is misreading James. The quotes provide evidence for that claim. Steve says that James's indeterminism is a kind of determinism but the evidence shows that James's indeterminism is meant to oppose determinism. The quotes provide evidence that Steve is misusing these terms and that he has misunderstood the meaning of James's essay. He brought it up, by the way, not realizing that this essay does not support his position at all. Quite the opposite.
But you didn't ask the questions to elicit any real answers, did you? That's why you're called Lucy, after all. That's why I usually don't bother to answer them - or even read them in the first place.
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