[MD] Indeterminism

[MarshaV]

On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:27 PM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> I would say that Free Will is Real because it is Real.  

And I suppose what you would say rules your world.  


> I don't need any kind of argument to demonstrate that to me since due to its nature such a static argument will fail.  

Well, my position is to neither accept the existence of free-will, nor reject the existence of free-will.  Da-dah,,, no argument.  


> What do you intuitively feel?  Do you take responsibility for your actions?  If so, why?

As a MoQist, I do not accept an independent, autonomous self that takes as a possession anything, including responsibility.   At least I try to stay aware.   


> Time to move on...
> 
> Mark

Marsha 





> 
> On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:49 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Ron, 
>> 
>> Marsha:
>> Never the less my comment to dmb still stands:  Of course, it is so much easier to lapse into calling me Lucy (a child's trick) than supplying answers to the actual questions, which you didn't, which is why I called you evasive.  And of course, you evaded responding to my other post also.  
>> 
>> And here are the questions that dmb evaded:
>> So, dmb, is your argument that  William James says free-will is real, therefore it is Real?  Or is it that William James and a dozen philosophers and scientists say free-will (two-stage model) is real, therefore it i s Real?  What is your argument?  Have you presented any argument at all?  No?  Are you folding?
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 8:43 AM, X Acto wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha:
>>> Of course, it is so much easier to lapse into calling me Lucy (a child's trick) than supplying answers to the actual questions, which you didn't, which is why I called you evasive.  And of course, you evaded responding to my other post also.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ron:
>>> Perhaps because everyone knows your M.O. by now thus 
>>> no one is interested in having a discussion with you anymore
>>> because you really dont want a discussion.
>>> 
>>> You have made that quite plain to everyone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...You are here to proclaim, without retort, your own personal point of view.
>>> 
>>> end of story. We get it. and we are honoring your wish.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ..this will be my last reply, sorry for going against your repeated requests to "shut my hole"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ..fuck you very much
>>> 
>>> -R
>>> 
>> 
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