[MD] Awareness and consciousnes in the MOQ

[david buchanan]

Andre said:
Is the 'awareness' mentioned, this 'endless landscape' similar to MOQ's Quality? MOQ's Quality? Similar to Northrop's undifferentiated aesthetic continuum''? William James''flux'? Similar to (Phaedrus hints at this) the subject matter of all of the perennial philosophies: Nothingness, Suchness, Spirit, Zen's 'Primordial Face', the Christian's 'God', etc?     I am aware that in the MOQ Quality is experience.

dmb says:
Yes, I think that's the idea. DQ is already familiar to everyone. The endless landscape of awareness, the immediate flux of life, direct everyday experience. It's not fancy or transcendent. We can only be conscious of a fraction of that endless landscape. Static patterns are always taken from this larger field of awareness, are always derived from this primary empirical reality. To say that everything in world, as we understand it consciously, is only a handful of sand taken from an infinite landscape is the same as saying DQ is the source and substance of everything. Or, you could say that the primary empirical reality is the source of all static pattens or experience is the basis of all ideas about reality, which is experience.

Andre said: 
Following from this can we state that static patterns of value refer to or are indications of levels of 'consciousness'? Where organic patterns of value experience events/are conscious of events and react to these experiences organically, according to the laws of nature? And, further up the levels (social, intellectual) with increasing consciousness of freedom. ... And that to return to this awareness one must 'kill all intellectual patterns' i.e. detach from them. The injunctions for 'reaching' this state as laid out in the various perennial philosophies are unanimous in this. In that sense they are termed 'trans-mental'/trans-intellectual which can be read as 'above' or perhaps as 'pre-intellectual'. I am here of course talking about prayer, meditative and contemplative practices.

dmb says:
Yes, I think there are several different things going on here but they're all right and intimately related. It works if you're talking about everything in the encyclopedia (the handful of static sand) as four evolutionary levels. It works if you're talking about individual people being composed of the four levels and engaged in their own evolutionary struggle. And "killing the static patterns" works if you're meditating to quiet the mind or engaged in some artful practice wherein the static patterns have been put to sleep by mastery, by the ability to "use" static patterns without even thinking about it. Again, these elements all fit together quite neatly but artful mechanics and contemplative monks have different methods and goals.


Andre said:
Perhaps seeing it in this way explains the intuitions, the 'dim apprehensions through a weakening/shattering of static patterns because the 'endless landscape of awareness' has been overlaid/covered up with piles and piles of static intellectualization. Therefore this 'endless landscape' has never been absent (you are already enlightened, you just do not realize it) Remove the intellectualizations and in a flash Quality will be revealed (the Dharmakaya Light)...push one 'level' farther and it will be revealed that you are that (tat tvam asi) meaning you are those patterns-not just a select bundle you call your 'self' or 'ego'. No, all of them. And realizing this, all is just as it is. Very normal...360 degrees....Quality perceived through static patterns. Realizing the harmony at the center of it all. (Anthony's PhD, p38) 



dmb says:
Yep, it's like the blue sky being reveled as the wind blows the clouds away.   ...Thanks, Andre. Your points are sensible and interesting.