[MD] Zen in Quality

Jan-Anders Andersson jananderses at telia.com
Tue Apr 17 23:42:30 PDT 2012


Hi Mark

Good point there. Any philosophy that lets you have good everyday life will prevail. Why should it be a pain to behave reasonably?

I bought and read ZAMM in the 70's because I thought I could learn more about motorcycle mechanics.

I think you'll like to read about things like that in my coming book "Money and the Art of Losing Control" that is now on its way through the censoring machinery at Apple iTunes bookstore. It will also be available on Kindle Amazon and other places so just watch for it to come.

By the way; I promised all of you at MD a signed copy of the book but it is impossible to sign an ebook.
Instead I give you this offer: Send, to my personal email, name and an emailadress to a professional reviewer of literature, preferrably ebook reviewers and I will give you a free copy from itunes or Kindle when it is ready. 

Jan Anders


18 apr 2012 kl. 05.43 skrev 118:

> Zen is a philosophy which describes methods by which to live one's
> personal life.  Once one has grasped the concept of Zen, and become
> "aware", it is no longer necessary to remember any of the rules of
> Zen, since the outlook is a whole new one.  Therefore, one of the
> results of Zen, is to leave Zen behind.  Living is then not
> dogmatically restricted as it is with Christianity or Islam.  For
> example, when one becomes proficient in playing a piano (for example)
> one no longer needs to remember the rules that got one there. and the
> intellectual perseveration on rules is left behind as simply a path
> that one had to walk to get there.  In the same manner, when one
> finally steps out of a cave and sees the sunshine, one no longer needs
> to remember the cave, since there are so many fields to play in.  One
> simply moves forward.
> 
> Using the Zen example, what is it that MoQ teaches us about in terms
> of a personal view of the world?  That is, once we have grasped
> Quality, how do we live our lives differently?  Any large scale
> metaphysics teaches certain behaviors which become natural with
> practice.  A lasting metaphysics is one which has stood the test of
> time, and has brought much meaning to those who participate in its
> teachings.  Many of these, from Buddhism to Christianity provide
> examples of "good behavior".  There are certain metaphysics, such as
> existentialism, that provide meaning through meaninglessness.  This
> form of living is harder to grasp, but it can be done.  The result is
> exaltation.  I am not sure about the behavior aspect of it, however.
> 
> So, what are the personal teachings of MoQ in terms of behavior?  Why
> should one embrace MoQ in terms of personal fulfillment?  What moral
> lessons can be learned?
> 
> I have some ideas which I can put out there, simply to start a
> conversation.  It would seem from the teachings of ZAMM, there is a
> suggestion that striving for excellence is one such teaching.  That
> is, be the best you can be.  This striving is completely from a
> personal level, and does not mean that we need to be better than
> others in a relative way.  By accepting the following of the Good,
> what morals can we attach to that?  What can we do to "follow DQ"?
> What is it so important that it is "the Good"?
> 
> Another thing that comes to mind is respect.  Since we are all
> interconnected though the fabric of Quality, we all have a place
> therein.  It could be that once one grasps the sense of Quality, ones
> relationship with that outside changes from one of fear to one of joy.
> In this way, one does not need to continually review the MoQ in order
> to stay in line.  It comes naturally because of the wonder of Quality.
> When a tree bends as the wind blows, one could say that the tree
> respects the wind.  It knows that the wind is not out to get it.  In
> the human framework, this form of respect is more difficult, for
> sometimes people ARE out to get us.  Any bombing will demonstrate
> that.  Since our current philosophies profess the finitude of life,
> there is a sense that one must get as much as one can while alive.
> Often respect is left behind.  However, by unifying All under one
> banner, respect becomes a symptom of morality, which is a guiding
> force.  Isn't it?
> 
> In Lila, the proposition is that entire creation is a form of
> morality.  While this is indeed grand, and it is not difficult to
> argue logically, it does not seem to be very clear in terms of
> personal morality.  What does "following DQ" teach us in terms of
> common daily living in relation to others?  Are there certain morals
> that are held higher than others?  Can the teachings of MoQ migrate
> from the cerebral to daily practice?  If we do believe in Quality,
> outside of the intellectual, why is that?
> 
> I can understand that some may wish not to go there and simply remain
> in the cleverness of the philosophy.  But this makes it a rather
> useless academic exercise in my opinion.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
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