[MD] Awareness and consciousness in the MOQ

Arlo Bensinger ajb102 at psu.edu
Wed Apr 18 06:51:22 PDT 2012


[Mark]
"There is but one Quality and Pirsig is its Prophet"

[Arlo]
There is one Quality, I'd say, although a quantifier seems odd. I think 
its better to just say 'there is Quality'. Are you suggesting there are 
multiple 'Qualities' at the first metaphysical level? So Pirsig divided 
one Quality into DQ/SQ but there are other Qualities that exist parallel 
to this?

Pirsig offers one description of Quality in his metaphysics. There can, 
and have always been historically, multiple descriptions of Quality. I 
don't think Pirsig would ever suggest there is One True Description of 
Quality. There are 'better' descriptions, to be sure, and I would 
venture to say that what brings most of us here is that we find Pirsig's 
description to be among the 'best'.

[Mark]
MoQ is rapidly becoming a dogmatic religion for some.

[Arlo]
You are free to disagree with Pirsig's MOQ, and articulate your 
differences, and when the day comes that you offer something better, I'm 
sure people will be interested in Mark's metaphysics. Although, then, by 
your own accord, you'll become a prophet leading an inquisition, through 
which the only escape is for people to disagree with you. Its a funny 
line of thought, "Here's something better than what others are saying, 
but you have to disagree with it or else you're a zombie". Kinda like a 
passive-aggressive metaphysics, "love me, but if you do i'll hate you".







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