[MD] Awareness and consciousness in the MOQ

[MarshaV]

On Apr 20, 2012, at 3:22 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> On Apr 19, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Andre <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Except for Marsha so it seems. She's happy to sit on her ever changing patterns of ignorant bliss, using the tetralemma and citing Watts, Hagen, Nagarjuna, Anthony's PhD, Pirsig himself and a host of others to deny she even exists, to deny she even has a 'self' for there is nothing that holds 'her' together. She denies passively observing. She denies being a 'stable condition'. She denies being a jungle of static patterns of value capable of apprehending Quality.
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> Marsha:
> It cannot be said that the self (I) exists;
> it cannot be said that the self (I) does not exist;
> it cannot be said that self (I) both exists and does not exist;
> it cannot be said that the self (I) neither exists nor does not exist.
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> How can one deny what hasn't been found to exist to begin with?  The 'self' and 'I' and 'mine' and 'my' are merely nominal conventions labeling a stream, or flow, of patterns.  These terms are pragmatically used for social discourse.  


Marsha asks:
In what way is identifying patterns as "yourself" other than just another pattern, although, in your case, a very special pattern?  But wait, isn't that specialness you identify just another pattern too?