[MD] Awareness and consciousness in the MOQ

[david buchanan]

 dmb said to Marsha:
Mindfulness is a matter of being fully aware and in touch with your own inner experience. It's about paying attention to the felt qualities of your present experience without judgement or attachment.  Claiming to be mindful, even if it were true, is not relevant to the actual complaint, which is about a lack of conceptual clarity and logical coherence.

Marsha replied:
....Your DEMAND for conceptual clarity and logical coherence is pretty amusing in a discussion of a metaphysics where the author, himself, states that the MoQ "is essentially a contradiction in terms, a logical absurdity.".   And presenting a quote by the Dalai Lama doesn't miraculously make you an expert in conceptual clarity and logical coherence.  I'd say you're more experienced in whining, sighing, talk of impatience and ad hominem attacks.   Such is your intellectual competence.


dmb says:
The MOQ is a contradiction because Metaphysics demands conceptual clarity and logical coherence whereas Quality (DQ) is pre-intellectual experience. But I'm not asking for a definition of DQ and Pirsig's remarks are not relevant to my complaints, which are about your denigration of intellectual quality (see above) in general and more particularly your foggy and contradictory claims about the self (no self). 
Your only defense is to mock the very idea of clarity and coherence and, of course, add some insult to this flimsy evasion. 
I'll take the total absence of substance in your slippery and irrelevant response to mean that you don't understand the problem. I'll also take it as further evidence that your claims are foggy and incoherent.
If Pirsig, the Dali Lama and the Buddha can't convince you that this behavior is inappropriate and taboo, then what chance do i have of persuading you?