[MD] A problem with the MOQ.

[MarshaV]

Greetings Ham,

On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:23 PM, "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:

>> Tuukka:
>> but our theories coincide in that subjective quality is more
>> fundamental than objective quality. Idealism seems to be
>> coming back to fashion anyhow... well, I don't care about
>> that, but I couldn't make the SOQ any other way.
> 
> Han:
> Subjective "quality" (awareness) is "more fundamental" because sensibility
> and value are both "essential", that is, derived from Essence, whereas
> objective quality (existential reality) is an intellectual construction of
> value-sensibility.

Marsha:
What is this "subject" and where is it to be found?  There is the experience of awareness, but is it anything other than the arising of innumerable causes and conditions, or patterns of relationships?   And too, it seems to me, both the "objective" and "subjective" quite obviously share in being interdependent with the process of conceptual construction.  

What do you think?  Can you find more than a pattern?
 
 
Marsha