[MD] Good Mystic, Bad Mystic.

[MarshaV]

Hi Joe,

hypothetic (adjective)l:  supposed but not neccesarily real or true

sq  = pattern, which I prefer to consider hypothetical 



I experienced DQ as nothing at all; I experience sq patterns as repetitive processes, conditionally co-dependent, impermanent and ever-changing, that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern.  


View 1.)  MoQ = Reality = Value(DQ/sq) 
View 2.)  MoQ = theory, intellectual static pattern of value


Marsha 




On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> Hypothesis: an unproved scientific conclusion drawn from known facts and
> used as a basis for further investigation or experimentation.
> 
> DQ is indefinable and not subject to any proof by logical investigation.
> 
> With the conception of DQ/SQ metaphysics, Pirsig redefines "hypothesis".
> Quality is converted from an adjective to an indefinable noun.  Logic cannot
> verify any definition of quality.
> 
> Only metaphysics can identify quality.  Knowable experience supplants the
> hypothesis of quality reality.  I experience indefinable DQ and definable
> SQ.
> 
> Joe  
> 
> 
> On 8/26/12 12:53 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> I prefer to think of objects of knowledge (patterns) as hypothetical.  Once
>> one accepts the MoQ's fundamental principal that the world is nothing but
>> Value, then 'expanded rationality' occurs when an individual transforms the
>> natural tendency to reify self and world into the natural tendency to hold all
>> static patterns of value to be hypothetical (supposed but not neccesarily real
>> or true.)  By using 'hypothetical' I think there is less of a tendency toward
>> intellectual arrogance.  Understanding static (patterned) value as
>> hypothetical acknowledges the incompleteness of what we know and makes room
>> for additional inquiry with new possibilities; it promotes an attitude of
>> fearless curiosity: gumption.  It moves one away from thinking of entities as
>> existing inherently and independent of consciousness.  
> 
> 
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