[MD] words/time

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Sun Dec 9 06:55:08 PST 2012


"Writing separates the knower from the known and thus sets up conditions for 'objectivity', in the sense of personal disengagement or distancing." 

      (Ong, Walter J., 'Orality and Literacy', p. 45) 


On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:11 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:


Yes, indeedy, it seems obvious that the line between the social and intellectual levels can be located in the transition from an oral tradition to a written tradition.

So exciting to see it...  

Can you even imagine what it would be like not to able to look something up?  



On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:55 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:


I am only into the third chapter, but this seems a great book for those who are interested in the ancient Greek philosophers and/or the study of language.  It may also present a path of reconciliation between those on the MD and those on the LS without much sacrifice.  And wouldn't that be a feather in one's cap.  



On Dec 8, 2012, at 4:32 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:


I found an interesting book which may provide some interesting information pertaining to the split between the social level and the intellectual level.  How the fleeting oral tradition became a more substantial, objectified written tradition. 

Orality and Literacy 
     by Walter J. Ong

Book Description:
"This classic work explores the vast differences between oral and literate cultures offering a very clear account of the intellectual, literary and social effects of writing, print and electronic technology.

"In the course of his study, Walter J. Ong offers fascinating insights into oral genres across the globe and through time, and examines the rise of abstract philosophical and scientific thinking. He considers the impact of orality-literacy studies not only on literary criticism and theory but on our very understanding of what it is to be a human being, conscious of self and other.

"This is a book no reader, writer or speaker should be without."


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