[MD] Metaphysics and the mystic.

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Hi David,

I find it difficult to separate ourselves from DQ in that way.  As I
see it, our consciousness is DQ in action.  We cannot isolate
ourselves from a DQ world, in my opinion.  It presents a false
dichotomy as far as I can tell.

If we use a waterfall analogy, consciouness is the water falling.  The
incomming sensory input is the river leading up to the fall.  The
drop-off at the cliff is our ability to generate consciousness.
However, this ability is a dynamic process and is fully imbued with
DQ.

Consciousness could possibly be separated from memory, which would
imply that consciouness could only exist in the present moment in a
timeless dimension.  We can be conscious of a memory, as in
consciously remembering.  Hmm... the word conscious is begining to
look awfully weird to me.  I had better stop here.

I am always open to ideas on con-shessness,
Mark

On 2/1/12, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mark and Joe,
>
> I think consciousness is ability to respond to DQ. What's wrong with this
> definition?
>
> -David.
>
>
> Joe wrote:
>> Hi Mark and All,
>>
>> If you look at the etymology of the word "consciousness" you see two roots
>> "Con" "scious" "With" "awareness" or "knowledge". Two principles are
>> involved, evolution and science. To make sense of that you have to posit
>> an
>> evolutionary description of reality "conscious" and "mechanical" or
>> "mathematical" differences. And the hunt is on!
>>
>> Indefinable DQ definable SQ as a metaphysical base enables the recognition
>> of the meaning of "consciousness". Alright so you propose "evolution" as
>> deciding the levels in existence, consciousness. Mathematical order is
>> inadequate since something is created from 0. The definition of 1 has been
>> changed in speech or consciousness. I do not know how to make sense out of
>> "consciousness" except through evolution which as yet does not have a
>> metaphysical foundation! E(x) out of, voluntas, will. Creation!
>>
>> It seems to me it would be a lot easier if the levels in evolution after 1
>> were definable in DQ/SQ terms since evolve "ex" "voluntas" out of will,
>> suggests a mathematical order and creation. Metaphysics involves 'Will'
>> and
>> 'order' in a dance beyond definable mathematics! 1 is rigid without
>> evolution which redefines 1 in consciousness.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>
> Mark wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe
>> > you can contribute to what you think consciousness is
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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