[MD] Metaphysics and the mystic.

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Joe,
The physical definition of experience is a metaphysical proposition.  Why do you think it is not?  Is there something special about it that makes it different?  I am interested in your opinion. 

 MoQ includes the physical as well, this does not make it not metaphysics.

Any time you present a construct of "what is", you are in the realm of metaphysics.  Actually doing something is not.  This is sq and DQ.  Every time you move or your heart beats it is DQ.  When you consider it or talk about it, it is not.  Most of your life is DQ.  IMO.

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> DQ is indefinable experience.  I know the indefinable from an emotional
> perspective.  DQ/SQ experience is indefinable/definable intellectual
> experience.  How can a metaphysical description of existence differ from a
> physical description of existence?  DQ/SQ!  How does the metaphysical
> description of existence evolution, differ from the physical description of
> reality which manifests in levels in evolution?
> 
> The study of physics defines that which exists.
> 
> The study of metaphysics is the study of existence itself, levels in
> existence, evolution, which format the existence of physics in terms of
> evolution in existence.
> 
> I do not know if that makes any sense.  DQ/SQ, indefinable/definable is hard
> for me to conceptualize.  I conceptualize evolution as levels in existence.
> 
> Joe  
> 
> 
> On 2/2/12 9:00 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Joe,
>> All I suggested is that you define DQ as "that which you experience".  This
>> was your suggestion.  You can leave it at that and not define any more because
>> we know what you mean.
>> 
>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark and all,
>>> 
>>> I can't define the experience of DQ since the experience of the indefinable
>>> is indefinable.  To what faculty for knowledge do I appeal?  Emotions?  I
>>> will never know DQ!  Emotions format reality in metaphysics?  Go girl!  The
>>> beginning slice for metaphysical description cannot be spoken.
>>> 
>>> There seems to be something wrong with the logic in that sentence.  The
>>> problem seems to be that existence comes in levels which are definable and
>>> indefinable.  What a cesspool!
>>> 
>>> What is indefinable existence?  When I broaden my metaphysics to DQ is
>>> indefinable I am flirting with DQ is unknowable except, maybe the first
>>> slice of knowledge is /SQ.
>>> 
>>> If I start slicing reality by evolution can I posit an indefinable level?
>>> My opinion is that definability is not resolvable by a logic DQ/SQ
>>> metaphysics!  The space / between DQ/SQ is indefinable/definable experience.
>>> That seems to be a contradiction.  It is certainly indefinable!
>>> 
>>> Joe  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/31/12 11:23 AM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You could perhaps define DQ as "something which you experience"
>>> 
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