[MD] Metaphysics and the mystic.

[MarshaV]

Hi Andre,

No answer?  Did you think you offered a get-out-of-jail card?  

What exactly did William James offer that was 150-years ahead of his time?  And within what cultural context?  What answer do you offer?

I have not yet listened to the 'The Partially Examined Life' podcast because it has not been downloaded into my iTunes library yet, but I am wondering how dmb handles rule #2 "it's about ideas, not fetishizing dead philosophers".  

Anyway, I am waiting for your answer.

Marsha



On Feb 5, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Andre <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Marsha to Andre:
> 
> I will remain open-minded.
> 
> Andre:
> No matter what I or anyone else will suggest to you it will fall on deaf ears.
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Andre,
>> 
>> How was it 150-years ahead of its time?  Ahead of American academic thinking of the time?  Ahead of all European thinking of the time?   Was it ahead of the understanding of the Asian science of mind?   You know, the stuff he read in the Vedic and Buddhist books he read?   What exact concept was unique to William James that was ahead of its time?
>> 
>> I will remain open-minded.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Andre <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Marsha to Andre:
>>> 
>>> I agree with Mark.  Boring. I fail to see how mentioning one scholar saying W. James was 150 years ahead of his times is suppose to be more than slightly interesting.
>>> 
>>> Andre:
>>> The 'mentioning of one scholar...ahead of his times' as 'boring' when considering his insights/ discoveries in the context of this MOQ is , for me, the same as dismissing Pirsig as not quite grasping what he is on about and therefore one MUST update the immediately given impulses by these insights (produced by some sort of biological impulse). And this whilst the man is still with us! How disgusting.
>>> I call your behaviour the 'zapp' culture. As soon as one is seen...zapp...the next. TV networks base the contents of their programming on such behaviour...keeping its (so called) 'gripping' and 'exciting' programs to the highest attention span of the viewer and not wanting the viewer to 'zapp' away. What you get is dismissal of credits containing those who have produced the program and loads of other information, immediate start of the next 'gripping' program which , subsequently is massacred by commercials selling products. It produces an overall shallowness, a surface appeal to nothing but syrup and emptiness in the true SOM meaning of the word. And by that I mean intellectual nothingness...zombi behaviour.
>>> 
>>> I did expect a little more consideration from you Marsha (and Mark). You know, mindfulness and all...but you are learning only selfishness, egotism and self-centred-ness. Precisely what 'mindfulness' seeks to correct.
>>> One of the first things one notices during mindfulness is the timelessness...the present moment. How can you judge someone's intellectual contributions on the basis of a time-dimension...no matter who puts this forward?
>>> 
>>> Keep it up mate. You're clutching at straws. If only you would open yourself up to what William James (among other people) has contributed....and really let it sink in and learn from it rather than pay scanty 'zapp' attention to it (as you do with mine and other people's posts).
>>> 
>>> As Mark would say: allingoodfunofcourseandahappynewyearaswelletcetcetc.
>>> 
>>>