[MD] The dirty doors of perception?

[david buchanan]

Mark said to dmb:
>From your short response, I assume that you agreed with what I had posted.  Also your quotes do not mention radical empiricism once.  Was there a reason for this?  Am I missing something?

dmb says:
You assume that I agree? How is it possible to get that impression from what I said? What part of "you're way off on the wrong foot" sounds like agreement to you? Ridiculous.

You said "radical empiricism [...] is in effect the scientific method as I see it, is the non-inclusion of the imagination". The quotes from Pirsig explain his critical attitude toward the scientific method. Not the least of all, he criticizes science for its blindness to Quality (because it was not a physical property and was not measurable by scientific instruments).



Mark said:
In summary, I find many flaws in your quotes. It sounds more like a rant against some phantasm of Science.  If you would like to dispute this with me, then I am happy to listen.  If you do not, then I will assume that you will agree with me as you did with the body of my previous presentation. 


dmb says:
The quotes dispute your claim that radical empiricism is just like the scientific method because of what it leaves out. I said quite clearly that you were way off and then presented textual evidence relevant to your bogus claim. And you took this as agreement!?! 
No, sir. I certainly have no interest in discussing the nature of science with anyone who reads that badly. Sorry, but the level of incomprehension on display here is really quite ridiculous.