[MD] The dirty doors of perception?

Carl Thames cthames at centurytel.net
Wed Feb 22 13:02:57 PST 2012


> Mark:
> Yes, I agree with dmb, if I am interpreting correctly what he is
> writing.  Reality is not invented, it is realized in a manner which we
> humans find useful.  We are simply interpreters of the given.  If
> somebody interprets Spanish into English, this does not mean that the
> English is not something similar to the Spanish.  It does not somehow
> make the English unreal.  Our interpretation as presented through sq
> is as direct as the DQ which is being interpreted.  To say that such
> analogue is somehow separate from the given is not correct.  Our
> ability to think is very real, as real as the hardness of steel.  We
> cannot say that we are "imagining" steel to be hard, or we once again
> get lost in the distractions of logic.

Carl:
This is interesting.  Last night, the fellow on Coast to Coast, Dr. Joe 
Dispranza,  (http://www.drjoedispenza.com/), commented that "Our personality 
creates our reality."  Upon reflection, I have to agree with that.  I've 
seen too many examples walking around.  As you say, our ability to think is 
very real, and HOW we think affects most of our perceptions.  We interact 
with our reality based on our perception of it.  The problem with 
translations are the cultural memes involved.  A concept presented in 
Spanish may have a totally different cultural base in English, and the 
concept doesn't translate well.  It's for this reason that the concept of 
quality is so difficult to grasp.  My concept of it will be different than 
yours, even though we're using the same language to describe it.  We can 
transmit concepts, but we can never be sure that the receiver is getting 
exactly what we're sending.  (Explain to a Kalahari Bushman who's never seen 
steel what it is, and how "hard" it is.  Better yet, explain to someone what 
it's like being in love.  I know what love feels like, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, 
but there is no way to know what the word really means to you.)  This is the 
also the problem with analogues.  The 'given' in this instance is very much 
based on the perceiver.  I don't think it's so much a matter of logic, 
because your logic is fine, as is mine, it's just that things have a 
different intrinsic meaning based on our personal background, experience, 
etc. 




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