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OK, I do.  Perhaps it is hidden from you.

Cheers,
Mark

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Jan 5, 2012, at 7:52 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> Mark,
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> I will only repeat: I see nothing within the definition of  'relative' or 'relativism' (philosophical view) that prevents assigning a value judgement.  Within the MoQ static patterns (knowledge/truth) are ranked by their evolutionary function: inorganic, biological, social or intellectual.  
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> 
> Marsha
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 5, 2012, at 7:58 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Marsha:
>> Yes, I agree.  My point is that you need to say: within "Your" MoQ,
>> not within "The" MoQ, or else you are not being consistent.  There is
>> no THE MoQ in a relative world.  These are your views, not the MoQ's
>> for such a thing does not exist in your world.  It would make The MoQ
>> absolute, which you do not like.  Get it?
>> 
>> If you are fond of relativism, then you should appreciate what I am
>> saying.  If you do not like relativism, then you can object with what
>> I am saying.  So what is it, do you agree or do you object?  Something
>> tells me you are going to say "mew", maybe I am psychic.
>> 
>> By the way, what relative frame of reference do you use for MoQ?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>> 
>> On 1/5/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Mark,
>>> 
>>> I will only repeat: I see nothing within the definition of  'relative' or
>>> 'relativism' (philosophical view) that prevents assigning a value judgement.
>>> Within the MoQ static patterns (knowledge/truth) are ranked by their
>>> evolutionary function: inorganic, biological, social or intellectual.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2012, at 2:16 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>> I believe what you meant to say, was that within "your" relative view
>>>> of MoQ there is evolutionary ranking.  This is your relative position,
>>>> and has no bearing on an absolute position of MoQ, since that cannot
>>>> exist in a relativist view.  From your position of MoQ, how do you
>>>> relate to other relative positions?  That is, what connection do you
>>>> make to ascribe to MoQ as a whole?  Within your MoQ there are static
>>>> patterns which you denote as knowledge/truth.  What does this mean to
>>>> you within your relative structure?
>>>> 
>>>> Explaining that will give others an idea of what you mean.  Even if
>>>> you provide quotes, this still does not provide one with your relative
>>>> postion because the quotes are somebody else's position.  If you
>>>> ascribe to another's position, it must be presented as a whole.  Their
>>>> beef stew must be the same as your beef stew for it to taste the same.
>>>> 
>>>> So, my question again is how do you provide value assignment within a
>>>> relative framework?  Does my question make sense to you?  If not, I
>>>> will try to ask it a different way.  I need to understand your
>>>> framework in order to pose it however.  What does the ranking mean to
>>>> you?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/5/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see nothing within the definition of  'relative' or 'relativism' that
>>>>> prevents assigning a value judgement.  Within the MoQ static patterns
>>>>> (knowledge/truth) are ranked by their evolutionary function: inorganic,
>>>>> biological, social or intellectual.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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