[MD] relative

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Yes dmb,
In translations of Buddhist philosophy the word relative is used to denote a truth which arises from absolute truth.  This is not how Marsha is using the term.  She is invoking Relativism.  Review her posts on the matter.  Maybe she has changed her mind even if she "doesn't understand what I am saying".

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:15 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> dmb says:
> Relativism is one of the main features of "the genetic defect within the nature of reason itself". It is not some wonderful Buddhist idea that serves as a solution to the problem. It is part of the problem with science and scientific objectivity. This is the problem that young Phaedrus struggled with in college (at age 14). Nine out ten doctors agree that it's important to distinguish the disease from the cure.
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> "The purpose of scientific method is to select a single truth from among many hypothetical truths. That, more than anything else, is what science is all about. But historically science has done exactly the opposite. Through multiplication upon multiplication of facts, information, theories and hypotheses, it is science itself that is leading mankind from single absolute truths to multiple, indeterminate, relative ones. The major producer of the social chaos, the indeterminacy of thought and values that rational knowledge is supposed to eliminate, is none other than science itself." (ZAMM 116)
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> Marsha said to Mark:
> I have provided plenty of examples of 'conventional truths' called 'relative' including the recent quotes I presented from the book RMP recommended ('Buddhism, Plain and Simple', by Steve Hagen) as showing the similarities between the moQ and Zen Buddhism, so please don't accuse me of "imposing the term relative on Buddhism".    
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> ...That conventional truth is relative is an extremely common utterance within Buddhism.  And, I understand it as true. ...
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