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Mark,
I'm short of time.. gotta go draw with Timo's nephew =) but I'd  
definitely say math isn't just an instrument... mathematicians speak  
of Mathgod and they find beauty in it and I do too. You know, "number  
theory" in the field of "pure mathematics" was considered a waste of  
time with no practical applications whatsoever for a long time... but  
still people did that, even under the protection and support of the  
Uni. Only later did people find out it's useful for cryptography and  
has a lot of military use nowadays. But the point is people did that  
even though they thought it has no purpose. Please, know a little bit  
more about math if you can. =)

But it is very true that the applied math they teach in school is  
rather instrumental. To make matters worse, it makes math appear  
revolting to some who might otherwise find it beautiful. If this is  
what you meant, you were only too right.

-Tuukka



Quoting 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com>:

> Hi guys,
> There is another difference between music and math.  Music has no
> purpose but to be listened to.  Math usually has a purpose, that is,
> it is intended to lead somewhere.  Once a song is over, are you there?
>  The Hindu philosophy is more like music whereas the Judeo-Christian
> (and Moslem) philosophies are more like Math.  In my opinion of
> course.
>
> I would prefer that MoQ were more "musical" in its perspective, but
> there are those who insist on making relative measurements.  Such
> people prefer the Math approach.
>
> The Hindu's say that reality is a dance, the Westerners say it is toil
> and sacrifice.  What do you expect from a culture that claims
> "survival of the fittest" as the reason we are here.  One dog eating
> another, that is no kind of dance but a fight to the death!  There are
> some in this forum who seem like they are fighting to the death.  This
> is what the ego does,in my opinion.  I can't be wrong can I?  I'll
> fight you for it to show who is right! :-)
>
> cheers,
> Mark
>
> On 1/11/12, mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net <mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net> wrote:
>> Joe,
>>
>> I like to contrast music with mathematics. But music has one thing
>> maths does not, which is that music is more cyclical. The same rhytms
>> or beats or melodies - they repeat with certain variations. That is
>> why I consider music to be analoguous with a rather deep conception of
>> reality. It has repeating patterns which become different by each
>> repetition. Sometimes the pattern itself stays the same but is
>> differentated from others by how many repetitions of the pattern
>> precede it. But more interestingly, there can bee more patterns
>> interwoven into the music and they affect each other. A Bach fuga
>> would be the most obvious example of such music.
>>
>> -Tuukka
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Tuukka and All,
>>>
>>> I am thinking of the musical scale: Do, RE, MI_FA, Sol, La, TI_Do.  The
>>> intervals between notes are not all the same.  The harmony of the spheres!
>>> I would hope that music is a trigger for experiencing reality.  It
>>> certainly
>>> is far reaching in creating delight.  I do not know that music is
>>> metaphysical but it provokes many fine moments, and I like the analogy of
>>> the music of the spheres.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
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