[MD] SOPA and PIPA

[Ian Glendinning]

But you addressed it to me and I have no senator or voting rights in
your great country ;-)
(So I'm doing my bit by spreading discussions and links.)
Ian

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:28 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Hi Ian,
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> And I was agreeing with your point, and hopefully suggesting it might be valuable to phone one's senators.
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> Marsha
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> On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> My point is it's not a human rights / freedom of speech issue - it's
>> about quality.
>> You know, the subject of this mailing list.
>> Ian
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Ian Glendinning
>> <ian.glendinning at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Agreed Marsha.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:03 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> After hearing a discussion/debate on an NPR station, I called the two CT senators requesting they not sign either bill, but negotiate and craft better legislation.  Phoning was a small enough action, but more powerful than just holding an opinion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
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>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Rubbish.
>>>>>
>>>>> YouTube and Wikipedia already carefully enforce IP Copyrights.
>>>>>
>>>>> The state has always been / is always able to enforce laws, including
>>>>> preventing law-breakers from operating illegally. Everyone is free to
>>>>> break the law, they just need to take responsibility for the
>>>>> consequences.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are just very badly drafted bills that need some practical
>>>>> negotiation, but the principle is sound.
>>>>> IP Copyrights need to be fairly enforceable on the internet across
>>>>> national borders.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=4099
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16623831
>>>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=4063
>>>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=4059
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Tuukka Virtaperko
>>>>> <mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net> wrote:
>>>>>> You are asking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The law will make State able to close YouTube, Facebook, Wikipedia and
>>>>>> others at will.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Tuukka
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 19.1.2012 5:02, Ian Glendinning kirjoitti:
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>>>>>>> As a matter of interest Tuukka, what is your view of SOPA / PIPA ?
>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Tuukka Virtaperko
>>>>>>> <mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you realize this stuff is happening in your home country?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://vimeo.com/31100268
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Tuukka
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