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Marsha,
Is what I smell what I smell?  What a novel concept you are
presenting, I will have to remember that one.

Is what you think not what you thinK?  Just wondering... Or, is what
you think RELATIVE to what I think?  That would be interesting...We
could explore how your relativism works here.  Or perhaps you have
dropped that nonsense.  No reply needed, Please!

Thank you for the rhetorical enlightenment.

Mark

On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Mark,
>
> What you think is what you think.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:17 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
>> I do not place the concept of patterns above Self.  This is demeaning in
>> my view.  Patterns are just an intellectual construct, and we are more
>> than just intellect in my view.
>>
>> Oh, and in my garage it is Ormus.  Google it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> In my understanding there is no homunculus to be a mystic.  As I have
>>> stated many times before, it is my understanding that within the MoQ, the
>>>
>>> “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent,
>>> impermanent and conceptualized static patterns of inorganic, biological,
>>> social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality.
>>>
>>> So how could someone BE a mystic?  Maybe by Dave Harding's pronouncement?
>>>  I don't think so.  BUt fhow about you?  What kind of transformation are
>>> you working towards in your garage?
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, 118 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marsha,
>>>> You CAN be a mystic if you want to.  It simply takes effort.  Look to
>>>> Buddhist training.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On 1/23/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a mystic.  And on what basis, other some a trumped up
>>>>> conceptual
>>>>> construct, do you call me such a thing?  You're full of baloney...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:27 AM, David Harding <davidjharding at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you call Marsha names such as an 'eel in the bucket'? I get
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> she is frustrating because she doesn't want to accept that sq is old,
>>>>>> fixed and complex.  But she is right in the end no? Ultimately things
>>>>>> aren't static.  I call her a Mystic because I try and point out that a
>>>>>> person who denies they are ruining the undefinable ultimate reality
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> fixed definitions, is still defining. They are called Mystics. But
>>>>>> they're
>>>>>> not wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Metaphysics of Quality expands our mystical understanding of the
>>>>>> universe.  It isn't in direct opposition to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Curiously,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/01/2012, at 6:15 AM, Andre wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marsha to Andre:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whatever...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>>> Brilliant Marsha...absolutely/relatively brilliant!!! The typical
>>>>>>> response of an eel in the bucket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hives.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
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