[MD] SOPA and PIPA

[Tuukka Virtaperko]

Mark,

no hard feelings. I was having a very similar conversation on LS with 
Platt, and it took a lot of time. Thought it was important, though. I 
guess we're beginning to be finished here.

> Mark: Part of our political process is through the rhetoric of convincing.
> It requires people to get together and discuss things.  Many people
> make emotional decisions when voting (and there is nothing wrong with
> that).  The solitary filling out of a form on the internet would
> probably only attract the real political die-hards, and the general
> population would not participate.  Besides, in this country most
> people do not know specifically what they want outside of their
> kitchen.  Me?  I go as far as my garden.

Tuukka:
Everyone who cares about politics can still convince and debate. But 
politics is not supposed to be an identity building tool. Ie. if someone 
works at Burger King but has big tits, she might vote right wing because 
she hopes to get a rich man because of her big tits, even though she's 
making her own job worse.

Mark:

In this country, Chicago is an "election machine", if you know what I mean.


Tuukka:

I guess I have missed an essential tv-show or something. But saw Some 
Like It Hot just yesterday or the day before that. Guess you had a lot 
of booze and machine guns in Chicago in the twenties, lots of police 
too. We had prohibition in Finland too and that's when the drinking only 
got started.

-Tuukka