[MD] SOPA and PIPA

[Tuukka Virtaperko]

Mark,

no wonder you have so many problems there then...

Okay, Chicago is such a place then.

TV


25.1.2012 18:43, 118 kirjoitti:
> Hi Tuukka,
> I am not sure what you mean by an identity building tool.  Politics is
> all about building an identity.
>
> In terms of Chicago, what I meant was that a "machine" is in place
> (maybe less so that before) which delivers election results which are
> not representative.  Some say that it was this machine which gave JF
> Kennedy his presidency.  Chicago is notorious for the strong hand of a
> few, and the tampering of elections.  It is no better than Russia or
> Iran in this sense.
>
> All my opinion of course,
> Mark
>
> On 1/24/12, Tuukka Virtaperko<mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net>  wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>> no hard feelings. I was having a very similar conversation on LS with
>> Platt, and it took a lot of time. Thought it was important, though. I
>> guess we're beginning to be finished here.
>>
>>> Mark: Part of our political process is through the rhetoric of convincing.
>>> It requires people to get together and discuss things.  Many people
>>> make emotional decisions when voting (and there is nothing wrong with
>>> that).  The solitary filling out of a form on the internet would
>>> probably only attract the real political die-hards, and the general
>>> population would not participate.  Besides, in this country most
>>> people do not know specifically what they want outside of their
>>> kitchen.  Me?  I go as far as my garden.
>> Tuukka:
>> Everyone who cares about politics can still convince and debate. But
>> politics is not supposed to be an identity building tool. Ie. if someone
>> works at Burger King but has big tits, she might vote right wing because
>> she hopes to get a rich man because of her big tits, even though she's
>> making her own job worse.
>>
>> Mark:
>>
>> In this country, Chicago is an "election machine", if you know what I mean.
>>
>>
>> Tuukka:
>>
>> I guess I have missed an essential tv-show or something. But saw Some
>> Like It Hot just yesterday or the day before that. Guess you had a lot
>> of booze and machine guns in Chicago in the twenties, lots of police
>> too. We had prohibition in Finland too and that's when the drinking only
>> got started.
>>
>> -Tuukka
>>
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