[MD] pure experience (DQ)

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi DMB and All,

MOQ DQ/SQ.  

Hi David and All,

I guess the question to be asked is:  Is MOQ metaphysics or reality?  With a
DQ/SQ base Quality apparently does not apply to reality in existence as a
metaphysics.  "The central reality of mysticism, the reality that Phaedrus
had called 'Quality' in his first book, is not a metaphysical chess piece."

I guess he is proposing a knowledge beyond metaphysics of DQ/SQ.  I don't
think he gave that study a name, so I seemed to misunderstand the
relationship between DQ/SQ, metaphysics, and physics?  How do you break it
down?

Joe






On 7/9/12 12:24 PM, "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:

> "The central reality of mysticism, the reality that Phaedrus had called
> 'Quality' in his first book, is not a metaphysical chess piece. Quality
> doesn't have to be defined. You understand it without definition, ahead of
> definition. Quality is a direct experience independent of and prior to
> INTELLECTUAL ABSTRACTIONS.  Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable
> IN THE SENSE that there is a KNOWER AND A KNOWN [because knowers or subjects
> and knowns or objects are intellectual concepts too], but a metaphysics can be
> none of these things. A metaphysics [including the metaphysics of Quality, of
> course] must be divisible, definable, and knowable, or there isn't any
> metaphysics."  --Pirsig in LILA