[MD] expanded rationality

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed Jul 11 13:07:12 PDT 2012


Mark,

I have no clue what you are talking about.

 Marsha



On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK Marsha,
> 
> Here is question 3 of the Socratic dialogue.
> 
> Is the fact that you hypothetically accept static or conventional logic real?
> 
> I am simply asking where you base your foundation.  This is, of course in line with Arlo's comment on infinite recursion, a paradox that is easily avoided.  Although it is fun to play with since such paradoxes can bring about understanding outside of the paradox.
> 
> So, again, what is truly real for you?
> 
> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
> Mark
> 
> On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:31 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Greetings Mark,
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:56 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK,
>>> If knowledge is not REAL, then what IS real to you?  I am not sure how you are using the word real so I do not understand.  Is anything real?
>>> 
>>> Just some more inane questions since I have no clue what you are talking about.  
>> 
>> Are you wondering about the adverb 'necessarily' in "necessarily real or true"?  It came with the dictionary citation.  I hypothetically accept static, or conventional knowledge.  
>> 
>> If I suppose an angry bear is chasing me, I suppose I will run?  
>> 
>> 
>>> For example, is knowledge not to run into a conflict in Serbia real for you?
>> 
>> I prefer the idea of negotiating conflict resolution in Serbia.  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 4:04 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> That universal qualifier (all) means it cannot be proved, and I cannot see how it it can be falsified either.  As a hypothesis it is a loser.  I do think one can still hold all knowledge to be hypothetical; hypothetical as in supposed but not necessarily real or true.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 5:27 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If it is a hypothesis, how do you go about proving it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yet another inane question from the mind of Mark the scientist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:00 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Arlo,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And oh I do like it, but can it be falsified?  I don't think so…   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:56 PM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [Marsha]
>>>>>>> There it is: "all knowledge is hypothetical". 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [Arlo]
>>>>>>> Interesting hypothesis... 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:49 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There it is: "all knowledge is hypothetical".  I've been listening to a youtube audio about Karl Popper, his 'Science of Falsification'.   It's a Popper quote.  Not an idea original to me, probably something I read in the book 'Black Swan' which had many good things to say about Popper.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
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