[MD] expanded rationality

[MarshaV]

Hi Mark,

Thought I made it clear the other day that the fundamental, for me, goes all the way down to 
'not this, not that', or 

    All conditioned dharmas 
    Are like dreams, illusions, bubbles, shadows, 
    Like dew drops and a lightning flash. 
    Contemplate them thus.

 
Marsha 



On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK Marsha,
> 
> Here is question 3 of the Socratic dialogue.
> 
> Is the fact that you hypothetically accept static or conventional logic real?
> 
> I am simply asking where you base your foundation.  This is, of course in line with Arlo's comment on infinite recursion, a paradox that is easily avoided.  Although it is fun to play with since such paradoxes can bring about understanding outside of the paradox.
> 
> So, again, what is truly real for you?
> 
> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
> Mark
> 
> On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:31 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Greetings Mark,
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:56 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK,
>>> If knowledge is not REAL, then what IS real to you?  I am not sure how you are using the word real so I do not understand.  Is anything real?
>>> 
>>> Just some more inane questions since I have no clue what you are talking about.  
>> 
>> Are you wondering about the adjective 'necessarily' in "necessarily real or true"?  It came with the dictionary citation.  I hypothetically accept static, or conventional, knowledge.  
>> 
>> If I suppose a angry bear is chasing me, I suppose I will run?  
>> 
>> 
>>> For example, is knowledge not to run into a conflict in Serbia real for you?
>> 
>> I prefer the idea of negotiating conflict resolution in Serbia.  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 4:04 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> That universal qualifier (all) means it cannot be proved, and I cannot see how it it can be falsified either.  As a hypothesis it is a loser.  I do think one can still hold all knowledge to be hypothetical; hypothetical as in supposed but not necessarily real or true.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 5:27 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If it is a hypothesis, how do you go about proving it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yet another inane question from the mind of Mark the scientist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:00 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Arlo,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And oh I do like it, but can it be falsified?  I don't think so…   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:56 PM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [Marsha]
>>>>>>> There it is: "all knowledge is hypothetical". 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [Arlo]
>>>>>>> Interesting hypothesis... 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:49 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There it is: "all knowledge is hypothetical".  I've been listening to a youtube audio about Karl Popper, his 'Science of Falsification'.   It's a Popper quote.  Not an idea original to me, probably something I read in the book 'Black Swan' which had many good things to say about Popper.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
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