[MD] expanded rationality

[Jan Anders Andersson]

Marsha

I think you forget, or neglect, the time dimension. You are correct in the statement that "the world" is nothing but Value, Valued by Quality, BUT, Values are different, there are short term Values and long term Values; from very very very shortly existing like Higgs-Boson's at CERN to nearly infinite Values. I tried to show you in the first 6 chapters of MALC. 

If you still don't get it maybe try to read Carlos Castaneda's description of Tonal and Nagual.

Castaneda describes Tonal, (the Values) as a top of a table or as an island. All we know is on this table, and outside is Nagual. The interesting thing is that this table is different for every person and it grows, by time. 

I made a paraphrase of Tonal in MALC and describe how maps are growing and changing by time. The map of human knowledge is more like a field, a three-dimensional spherical field with its forgotten past deep inside and the possible future outside. Please consider the pictures of the Sea and the Maple tree here: http://www.facebook.com/MoneyandtheArtofLosingControl

Best

Jan Anders

14 jul 2012 kl. 10.10 skrev MarshaV:

> 
> Hi Jan-Anders,
> 
> Re: my thoughts on the subject line 
> 
> 
> "All knowledge is hypothetical" - Herr Doktor Professor Karl Maimund Popper 
> 
> Once one accepts the MoQ's fundamental truth that the world is nothing but Value, then 'expanded rationality' occurs when an individual transforms the natural tendency to reify self and world into the natural tendency to hold all static patterns of value to be hypothetical (supposed but not neccesarily real or true.)  Understanding static (patterned) value as hypothetical acknowledges the incompleteness of what we know and makes room for additional inquiry with new possibilities.  It certainly moves away from thinking of entities as existing inherently, and independent of thinking.  
> 
> J-A, at the moment I like this idea; you may like some other idea.  
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> p.s.   "Love" and "arete" are good concepts.  What inspires love and arete?  Holding on too tightly to anything - concept/percept - is static.  Holding on too tightly to "love", "arete" or "42" might be considered very static, also.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Marsha
>> 
>> Love?
>> 
>> Arete?
>> 
>> Volvo? http://www.volvogroup.com/group/global/en-gb/volvo%20group/ourvalues/quality/pages/quality.aspx
>> 
>> 42?
>> 
>> Jan Anders
>> 
>> 
>> 13 jul 2012 kl. 13:06 skrev MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi J-A,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> "all knowledge is hypothetical" - Herr Doktor Professor Karl Maimund Popper
>>>> That's hypothethetical too, I suppose.. as the Titles, and the source, and his name...
>>>> 
>>>> Grg could destroy the whole world but not the tool he used.
>>>> 
>>>> To stay constructive against the destructuve forces, we have to rely on the basis for constructions, patterns that are more static and less changing than or own. Holding on too much to "not this, not that" is diving into an empty void where nothing comes from.
>>>> 
>>>> What is a Quality life to you?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not 'necessarily' thermodynamics?   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> J A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 13 jul 2012 kl. 10:30 skrev MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> 
>>>>> "all knowledge is hypothetical" - Herr Doktor Professor Karl Maimund Popper 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once one accepts the MoQ's fundamental truth that the world is nothing but Value, then 'expanded rationality' occurs when an individual transforms the natural tendency to reify self and world into the natural tendency to hold all static patterns of value to be hypothetical (supposed but not neccesarily real or true.)  Understanding static (patterned) value as hypothetical acknowledges the incompleteness of what we know and makes room for additional inquiry with new possibilities.  It certainly moves away from thinking of entities as existing inherently, and independent of thinking.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha 
>>>>> 
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