[MD] expanded rationality

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Jul 16 00:26:02 PDT 2012


Joe,

I thought you were expounding on the mathematical value of physics. One divided by zero is illogical, meaningless, producing indeterminate results. Like go back and reconsider your thinking.  Knowing nothing made Socrates the wisest man, or so said the exalted Pythia of Delphi, yet his was a mind of constant and fearless inquiry and testing.  He wasn't afraid of falsification; he seems to have welcomed it. Testing, one, two, three, testing...   


Marsha 





On Jul 15, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> IMHO you are trying to move two words, indivisible and unknowable, from a
> physical setting to a metaphysical setting.  This ignores the logic in the
> description of metaphysical reality as DQ/SQ.  Indivisible and unknowable
> cannot be aspects of DQ/SQ metaphysics since they have their roots in
> definition and DQ is indefinable.  Indivisible and unknowable are limits to
> physical SQ reality not DQ reality.  Evolution and knowing are alive and
> well in DQ/SQ.
> 
> Joe 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/15/12 2:15 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> Is 1/0 Really meaningless?  Doesn't it point to the indivisible, undefinable
>> and unknowable, the 'not this, not that'?  Hmmmm.  What is h-constant?
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 14, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha and All,
>>> 
>>> Force, Mass, and Energy fall within the purview of mathematics for
>>> description.  1 is defined.  Mathematical logic cannot embrace evolution.
>>> In MOQ DQ is indefinable.  The mathematical logic of physics supports
>>> definition.  
>>> 
>>> The DQ/SQ logic of metaphysics is not bound in definition.  DQ remains
>>> indefinable, open to further curiosity in a description of reality.
>>> 
>>> Definition is not reality.  Definition is a calculated structure for
>>> reality.  DQ/SQ is not subject to mathematical manipulation.  The logic is
>>> wrong.  1 is meaningless in exposing DQ/SQ.  1/0 is meaningless.
>>> Physical/metaphysical description follows differing formats of DQ to enable
>>> DQ to remain indefinable.  Physics and Metaphysics describing reality and
>>> evolution do not allow the same disciplines in logic.  1/0 is illogical.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> On 7/14/12 3:58 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Why do physicist bring together force, mass and energy?  What are they?  How
>>>> are they the same?  How are they different.  What is being left out?  What
>>>> does metaphysics, the MoQ, say about this description of reality?   :-)
>>> 
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