[MD] T.U.R.T.L.E.W.A.X.

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Fri Jun 8 00:06:43 PDT 2012


Mr. Booth,

I imagine, unless we're only interested in job security and maintaining the status quo, as a foundation we want direct insight (experience).  The point was that while a product of experience, abstractions & generalizations (concepts) may stray too far from that experience to be meaningful, even intellectually meaningful.  The MoQ is empirical, yes?  

Marsha 


On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Frank Booth <frankbooth66 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> It's funny to hear Ramanujan named. Mathematics has axioms as the "bottom turtle" and R's english mentors being involved at the time in attempting to lay down a solid self-contained foundation ( T.U.R.T.L.E.W.A.X. ). Good intuition.
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> Value, not concepts: Yes indeed. I would go so far as to say Value and Leap o' Faith are ( is? ) the very same tortuga.
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> Leap of faith is really another way of saying Gumption.
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> From Gumption, the higher symmetries, turtle upon turtle.
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> Direct perceptions and experience (Value), not concepts.
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> On Jun 6, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Frank Booth <frankbooth66 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> What is the name of the bottom turtle?
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