[MD] dark night

[118]

Hi Joe,

>From my understanding of Quality, physics is no different from metaphysics.

They are both ghosts of reason (see ZAMM).  That one would consider them
different, would seem to point to one reality being "different" from
another.
Both are descriptions of reality, both reside as human creations.

Certainly physics is widely accepted as a description of reality, but that
does
not make it different, it simply makes it agreed on.  Once the concept of
"the
ghost of reason" is grasped, this becomes self evident, at least so far as
Quality goes.  Definitions are something we make up.  They are real for us
if
we accept them.  If DQ/SQ is real for you, you can define it anyway you
want,
or not.  However, choosing not to define it is simply a tool of your
metaphysics.

Hope this makes sense to you.

Cheers,
Mark

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Joseph Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> Understanding without definition.  Pirsig described a metaphysics DQ/SQ in
> which DQ is indefinable.  I accept that DQ can be experienced and remain
> indefinable.
>
> Physics differs from metaphysics in a way that SQ differs from DQ.  I even
> recall a phrase: Forgive them!  They know not what they do!  To be right
> and
> wrong follows metaphysics DQ/SQ.  I accept an indefinable.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 6/22/12 12:33 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In my opinion, metaphysics is a discipline which describes reality.  In
> any
> > description the words must be understood, and therefore have definitions.
>
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