[MD] Tweaking the emergence

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Hi Marsha,
Yes, that is my understanding as well.  Theories of non-locality are
based on statistics, which is not always the best tool to use; quantum
theory is based on probability as well, which is why it reaches dead
ends such as the uncertainty principle.

So while there is high probability that we are located here at this
instance, it does leave room for us to exist somewhere else in some
low probability.  Since that is the case, actions at a distance are
actually not occurring at a distance because we can be on pPuto as
well, and thus have a direct influence on its orbit.

You are also correct about some "verifying' experiments, but you must
be careful there because we find what we project.  Mathematical theory
is a creation, and therefore it can be self-serving.  It cannot create
anything that lies outside it structure.  By the same token, it will
find things that its structure includes.  This is just a matter of
self-reference.  So do not be fooled by the claim that mathematics can
find things that exist outside of mathematic.  It is one big cluster
____.

Interdependency implies that everything is one big wave function.  If
one thing changes in that equation, it changes everything.  This model
does not allow for free will, which is typical of science.  We are
just a bunch of billiard balls...  If we introduce any kind of
uncertainty theory, we leave the door open for free will, and the
posibility that we are not one big wave equation.  In fact, free will
can serve to free us from pattern dependency for all our actions.
This is why I say that free-will is another name for DQ.  By itself it
is not anything at all.  It only becomes something through its static
interpretations, like deciding which movie to go to, and then going.

I think you have much original thinking!  If concepts in physics bring
meaning to MoQ, then I am all for them.  The originality is making
that correspondence between physics and the almost unknown discipline
of MoQ.  We can create new things therein since it is "terra
incognita".

Thank you for allowing me to collaborate with you.

Cheers,
Mark

On 3/1/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> It is my understanding that nonlocalty as explained by Victor Mansfield, "is
> the inability to localize a system in a region of space and time. Stated
> postively, well-studied physical systems show instantaneous interconnections
> or correlations among their parts --- true instantaneous
> action-at-a-distance." indicating instantaneous interdependency without any
> information or energy exchanged.  From what I have read there have been
> numerous experiments verifying this quantum interdependence.  "Physicist
> Menas Kafatos writes: “Nature has shown us that our concept of reality,
> consisting of units that can be considered as separate from each other, is
> fundamentally wrong.” Since we are composed of cells, molecules, atoms and
> sub-atomic particles, this makes each of us part of one indivisible whole,
> interconnected and interdependent."
> (http://www.scribd.com/mobile/documents/38220299/download?secret_password=2oh813r469jq2qoc54bs)
>
> Sorry for the lack of original thinking.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:08 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Marsha,
>> I do not see how it can be compared as such.  Could you provide an
>> example?
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> On 2/29/12, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tuukka,
>>>
>>> Quality may be compared to quantum physics's nonlocality.  Statics
>>> quality
>>> exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns.  Patterns have no
>>> independent existence.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Tuukka Virtaperko
>>> <mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mark, Marsha,
>>>> I'm maybe not here to help you. But I'm here to help you help others, if
>>>> you wish.
>>>>
>>>> -Tuukka
>>>
>>>
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